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Re: Honeycomb skin

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:09 pm
by dan55
hi

I noticed similar. I've always wondered if more gaps would help
cheers
dan

Re: Honeycomb skin

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:40 am
by meyergre
here it is, with a more important gap.
If it's not enough, tell me your phone's resolution. This one is optimized for low-resolution screens, that's why the distance is this much little between the keys. ;)

But anyway : notice that the picture of the key is only a background, the keys themselves doesn't have any real gap between each other. :geek:

Re: Honeycomb skin

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:05 pm
by schrochem
Hey thanks meyergre,
I was thinking of a more significant gap but I see that's a major rework.
I started reading the 'create your own skins' thread and put in a request for the iphone.zip that came with skp.
I'd like to give making a skin a whirl....
I was thinking (but not so sure since I've never done it) that I could take the png files from the iphone skin and recolor them.
Anyway, it seems like an easy starter project....
I have a thunderbolt with 480X800 I believe.
Thanks again.

Re: Honeycomb skin

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:12 pm
by meyergre
Well, it's not a big deal in fact. Once the PNG is drawn, i just need to add some transparent pixels on each side to increase the gap ;-)

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Re: Honeycomb skin

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:00 pm
by schrochem
Hey meyergre,
After looking at your visual tutorial I'm getting a better idea of how the key size is made.
I decided to get out a trusty ruler and just measure the keys right on the phone.... :D
I compared the iphone skin to your latest kromoneycomb skin.
Looking at portrait mode they look vastly different but measure almost the same.
On my phone the iphone was 5X8mm with a 1mm gap between keys. your skin was 5X9mm with a 1mm gap.
I'm guessing the visual difference is a limitation of my ruler...perhaps the iphone is more like a 1.5mm gap.
However, in landscape it's easily seen. Iphone measured 7X7mm with a 2mm gap, your 9x9mm with a 1mm gap
I realize the actual letter and hit point are in the same spot but I think the smaller keys and bigger gaps make me get closer to that hit point.

Re: Honeycomb skin

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:45 pm
by meyergre
With more gap

Re: Honeycomb skin

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:32 pm
by dan55
meyergre wrote:here it is, with a more important gap.
If it's not enough, tell me your phone's resolution. This one is optimized for low-resolution screens, that's why the distance is this much little between the keys. ;)

But anyway : notice that the picture of the key is only a background, the keys themselves doesn't have any real gap between each other. :geek:
hi
oh right. so visual gap means nothing to key press accuracy ?

space key is the real issue here I find. especially in landscape

cheers
dan

Re: Honeycomb skin

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:09 pm
by meyergre
I may be wrong, but as I understood, it's just a picture displayed as a background of a transparent button. In fact, the gap is only a transparent part of the image, but it's still a part of it, you see what I mean?
Maybe your device is lacking accuracy around the borders, I'm having this kind of trouble with my Notion Ink Adam tablet, it's very hard to catch the notification bar for example...

In portrait mode, you can add some space under the keyboard, I don't think it's possible in landscape... maybe you can try a calibration in the keyboard options ? or even increasing the key's height ?

Re: Honeycomb skin

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:38 pm
by dan55
hi
yes I've tried calibration a few times but not noticed improvement.
correct. you can't add space under the space in landscape. although I have suggested it ;-)

cheers
dan

Re: Honeycomb skin

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:44 pm
by dan55
sent you some beer money dude ;-)